Comments on: What’s the difference between Intranet 2.0 and a social network with groups http://libraryclips.blogsome.com/2009/08/20/whats-the-difference-between-intranet-20-and-a-social-network-with-groups/ sharing ideas thoughts and feedback Sun, 12 Feb 2012 18:35:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1-alpha by: Gia Lyons http://libraryclips.blogsome.com/2009/08/20/whats-the-difference-between-intranet-20-and-a-social-network-with-groups/#comment-33706 Wed, 12 May 2010 14:59:17 +0100 http://libraryclips.blogsome.com/2009/08/20/whats-the-difference-between-intranet-20-and-a-social-network-with-groups/#comment-33706 I've got clients who are doing both the Corporate Voice thing (traditional intranet one-way communications) and at the same time, enabling the employee population to create their own pages, collaborative groups, projects, etc. But, it's not perfect yet. See my response to this, and to your response on my earlier post, here: http://www.giatalks.com/2010/05/why-sbs-systems-and-intranets-arent-merging-yet/ I’ve got clients who are doing both the Corporate Voice thing (traditional intranet one-way communications) and at the same time, enabling the employee population to create their own pages, collaborative groups, projects, etc.

But, it’s not perfect yet.

See my response to this, and to your response on my earlier post, here: http://www.giatalks.com/2010/05/why-sbs-systems-and-intranets-arent-merging-yet/

]]> by: John http://libraryclips.blogsome.com/2009/08/20/whats-the-difference-between-intranet-20-and-a-social-network-with-groups/#comment-33126 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 08:54:10 +0000 http://libraryclips.blogsome.com/2009/08/20/whats-the-difference-between-intranet-20-and-a-social-network-with-groups/#comment-33126 John, don't get me wrong. I absolutely love what Chris is doing with Thoughtfarmer and he'll be more than happy to read your appreciation :) I just wanted to draw a growing connection between the old intranet and the new one, made up imho exactly by the new collaborative paradigm. Thanks for your amazing posts John, don’t get me wrong. I absolutely love what Chris is doing with Thoughtfarmer and he’ll be more than happy to read your appreciation :)

I just wanted to draw a growing connection between the old intranet and the new one, made up imho exactly by the new collaborative paradigm.

Thanks for your amazing posts

]]> by: John Tropea http://libraryclips.blogsome.com/2009/08/20/whats-the-difference-between-intranet-20-and-a-social-network-with-groups/#comment-33125 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 01:41:21 +0000 http://libraryclips.blogsome.com/2009/08/20/whats-the-difference-between-intranet-20-and-a-social-network-with-groups/#comment-33125 Thx for your comment Emanuele I like how you dissected the Intranet into the 4 areas of content, communication, activities, and collaboration. And yes, it's also depends on the business needs and goal. I guess I was thinking from my point of view working in a global company with 5000-10,000 people Something like Jive could not replace our Intranet, as we need profile pages for business units, etc as you see on traditional Intranets. But these traditional intranets do not offer communities, networking, collaboration. It would be good if this was part of the Intranet, rather than another product...and as you say Jive SBS 4 is showing the step forward with integration into perhaps a tool like an Intranet. Basically I envision our Intranet as being a place for information, and profiles for business units, but in a web 2.0 ways...and then also functions for social networks, and collaboration (groups, communities)...that's why I like the idea of Thoughfarmer Thx for your comment Emanuele

I like how you dissected the Intranet into the 4 areas of content, communication, activities, and collaboration.

And yes, it’s also depends on the business needs and goal.

I guess I was thinking from my point of view working in a global company with 5000-10,000 people

Something like Jive could not replace our Intranet, as we need profile pages for business units, etc as you see on traditional Intranets. But these traditional intranets do not offer communities, networking, collaboration.
It would be good if this was part of the Intranet, rather than another product…and as you say Jive SBS 4 is showing the step forward with integration into perhaps a tool like an Intranet.

Basically I envision our Intranet as being a place for information, and profiles for business units, but in a web 2.0 ways…and then also functions for social networks, and collaboration (groups, communities)…that’s why I like the idea of Thoughfarmer

]]> by: John Tropea http://libraryclips.blogsome.com/2009/08/20/whats-the-difference-between-intranet-20-and-a-social-network-with-groups/#comment-33124 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 01:09:42 +0000 http://libraryclips.blogsome.com/2009/08/20/whats-the-difference-between-intranet-20-and-a-social-network-with-groups/#comment-33124 Hi John, I've tried to comment on http://libraryclips.blogsome.com/2009/08/20/whats-the-difference-between-intranet-20-and-a-social-network-with-groups/ without much success from a train. Could you put the following comment up for me? Many thanks and looking forward to your answer. Best, Emanuele ----- Hi John, I was lucky enough to have personally worked on a number of Intranet 2.0 projects or into projects to strategically evolve the Intranet in order to make it more relevant both to the business and the people. Based on my own experience, the gap between old style Intranet and Intranet 2.0 can be better imagined as a continuum with varied mixes of 4 basic ingredients: content, communication, activities, collaboration. The social network is roughly connected to the last part but it could also be the overall organizing principle for the entire intranet where contents, company to employes communication, employees to employees communication and self service functionalities can be embedded. I think the right mix really depends from the business goals and the people needs for which the Intranet 2.0 is designed. In some cases a social network with basic document sharing and content management capabilities will make it. Other times a full fledged and heavy intranet 1.0 with strong process integration, workflows and minimum social functionalities is much better. To this goal Jive SBS 4.0 can now be integrated with content and document management suites (Sharepoint being an example) and the same could be said about Lotus Connections if you add Quickr and Websphere Portal. I think Oracle, IBM and Microsoft (and ThoughtFarmer and Liferay Social Office) are the best suited to generally support an Intranet 2.0 project. -- Emanuele Quintarelli Hi John,
I’ve tried to comment on
http://libraryclips.blogsome.com/2009/08/20/whats-the-difference-between-intranet-20-and-a-social-network-with-groups/
without much success from a train. Could you put the following comment
up for me?

Many thanks and looking forward to your answer.

Best,
Emanuele

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Hi John,
I was lucky enough to have personally worked on a number of Intranet
2.0 projects or into projects to strategically evolve the Intranet in
order to make it more relevant both to the business and the people.

Based on my own experience, the gap between old style Intranet and
Intranet 2.0 can be better imagined as a continuum with varied mixes
of 4 basic ingredients: content, communication, activities,
collaboration.

The social network is roughly connected to the last part but it could
also be the overall organizing principle for the entire intranet where
contents, company to employes communication, employees to employees
communication and self service functionalities can be embedded.

I think the right mix really depends from the business goals and the
people needs for which the Intranet 2.0 is designed. In some cases a
social network with basic document sharing and content management
capabilities will make it. Other times a full fledged and heavy
intranet 1.0 with strong process integration, workflows and minimum
social functionalities is much better.

To this goal Jive SBS 4.0 can now be integrated with content and
document management suites (Sharepoint being an example) and the same
could be said about Lotus Connections if you add Quickr and Websphere
Portal.

I think Oracle, IBM and Microsoft (and ThoughtFarmer and Liferay
Social Office) are the best suited to generally support an Intranet
2.0 project.

—
Emanuele Quintarelli

]]> by: Marc Dangeard http://libraryclips.blogsome.com/2009/08/20/whats-the-difference-between-intranet-20-and-a-social-network-with-groups/#comment-33044 Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:58:41 +0100 http://libraryclips.blogsome.com/2009/08/20/whats-the-difference-between-intranet-20-and-a-social-network-with-groups/#comment-33044 Another platform that provides a Facebook for the enterprise is blueKiwi - www.bluekiwi-software.com. There is a review on the Enterprise 2.0 blog: http://enterprise2blog.com/2009/08/enterprise-20-dark-horse-bluekiwi/ if you want to get a feel for it. Another platform that provides a Facebook for the enterprise is blueKiwi - www.bluekiwi-software.com. There is a review on the Enterprise 2.0 blog: http://enterprise2blog.com/2009/08/enterprise-20-dark-horse-bluekiwi/ if you want to get a feel for it.

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