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August 21, 2008

Google Reader friends

Filed under: rss, readers, network

Not long ago I posted about Google Reader Shared Items, and was looking for a way to shop for people’s shared items and manually subscribe to them.
I was hoping when I subscribed to them it would appear in the “Friends’ Shared Items” section, but this isn’t the case, this only happens if they are your Gmail Contacts, you cannot manually subscribe to someone into this folder.

This is still the case, but the latest from the Google Reader blog is that you can now choose who of those Gmail contacts are allowed to see your Shared Items in their “Friends’ Shared Items” section. Even if I do prevent a few people from seeing my Shared Items, they could somehow still find my “Shared Items” webpage and subscribe from there…as I mentioned it would just be a regular feed subscription, they would not be able to organise that feed into their “Friends’ Shared Items” section.

How it happens is you can leave your setting on “Share with all my Chat contacts”, or you can now select “Share with Friends”.
This allows you to select particular people from your chat contacts into a more selective friends list.

If you do select a few people to see your “Shared Items”, they will be sent an email, where they can accept, and offer to share their “Shared Items” with you…at any time either of you can disable each other.

The more exciting news is that you can also add email addresses of people you want to add to your friends list, if they don’t have a Google Account, you will have to wait till they create one, if they do have a Google account, they will immediately be available for selection for your friends list (I guess this means they become a Gmail contact). Actually this isn’t exciting at all, only more convenient, because beforehand all I would have to do from Gmail is give them an invite and they would become one of my contacts, consequently they would then become available as my Google Reader contacts.

Read about it in the help section.

What I don’t get is why does someone have to be a Gmail contact first before I can add them to my friends list, or if I do invite a person and they do register with Gmail, then they automatically become a Gmail contact.

As I said in my previous post I simply want to roam around a Google Reader Social Network and simply add someone as a friend, and they have to friend me back.
Then I have the OK to subscribe to their Shared Items, and it will appear in my “Friends’ Shared Items” section…they can always disable me.
The beauty of this is we could also check out each others subscription pane’s…feed shopping.

Now that we have friended each other we could attack another issue in my previous post, and that is if I want to share an item with a particular friend instead of clicking the email footer button I could click a share with friend button, and select some friends I want to send this item to…and it would land in their Google Reader inbox.

I’m thinking of Google Reader looking like Facebook, but when I think of it like this maybe it does make sense to only have one friends list across all Google products. In a Google Reader social network the private message feature would be Gmail, and the chat section would be Gtalk….can’t remember if you can organise your contacts into friends lists.

When I think of it making a Google Reader friends list from my Gmail contacts, is similar to just making a selective contact list in Gmail and then pushing that to appear in Google Reader, only it’s more convenient to do it from within Google Reader.

I wonder if we could make multiple friends lists.

At the moment, as explained in my previous post, the manual way is to create a tag, and make that tag page public, and tell your friends about it so they can subscribe to that page as a regular Google Reader subscription (or they could subscribe in any RSS Reader, it doesn’t matter). Whenever you add an item to that tag, your friends that are subscribed to it will see the new content.

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  1. Yes you can segregate friends to different groups in Google Reader.

    You can now add friends to your friends list, share feed items, bookmark single blog posts from blogs that you read on the web and here’s the kicker, there is now a blog recommendation engine that recommends blogs you do not read by what your friends list is subscribed to in their Google Readers.

    Then, everything you share and bookmark in Google Reader of course comes up on your Google shared items page linked to by your Google profile.

    What really blew me away was the recommendation engine. If you add as many of your email list subscribers as you can to your Google Reader you can get a real good idea of what other blogs your subscribers are reading.

    The links in your shared items are all HTML and fully followed so every time one of your RSS subscribers shares a blog post it is creating incoming links to your site.

    Better yet, it uses the exact blog post title you wrote so now your links use your keyword phrases and bookmarkers can’t change your title tag.

    After talking to my SEO top dog contacts, they were all floored and assured me this is the new SEO tactic that no one knows about.

    http://www.keywebdata.com/?p=136

    It is kind of hard to add friends, the easiest way is to send a chat invite from Gmail and then email your contact you want to friend and have them email you back. It seems Google wants a two way conversation before they will allow you to become mutual friends.

    If you would like to friend me, add chrislang at gmail.com to your Google Gmail chat and send me an email letting me know so I can return an email to you, thereby creating a two way connection in Google.

    Google is quietly rolling this out behind the scenes but it is a full blown social bookmarking application and the blog recommendation engine is the new blog marketing strategy.

    One thing I have not quite figured out is if using FeedBurner now hurts you since the links point at the FeedBurner redirect rather than your site like a WordPress feed does.

    Comment by Chris Lang — August 22, 2008 @ 4:58 pm

  2. Chris,

    Thanks for your SEO perspective.

    You say:
    “Yes you can segregate friends to different groups in Google Reader.”

    Where do you do this, I only see:
    - share with friends, OR
    - share with chat contacts

    The “share with friends” part doesn’t show anything about creating lists of friends.

    I agree that soon Google apps will integrate into a social network
    via socialstream
    http://hcii.cmu.edu/M-HCI/2006/SocialstreamProject/index.php
    http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2007/07/googles-social-networking-projects.html

    I guess my post is a regular rss reader social network like FeedEachOther, Streamy, and Shyftr
    http://libraryclips.blogsome.com/2007/09/27/feed-each-other-the-facebook-of-rss-readers/
    http://libraryclips.blogsome.com/2008/04/15/roundup-sliderocket-rssmeme-shyftr-fraxi-flux/

    Comment by Johnt — August 23, 2008 @ 9:48 am

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