Comments on: fringe contacts: people tagging http://libraryclips.blogsome.com/2006/05/09/fringe-contacts-people-tagging/ sharing ideas thoughts and feedback Sat, 11 Feb 2012 08:06:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1-alpha by: Emanuele http://libraryclips.blogsome.com/2006/05/09/fringe-contacts-people-tagging/#comment-31286 Mon, 10 Jul 2006 08:47:09 +0100 http://libraryclips.blogsome.com/2006/05/09/fringe-contacts-people-tagging/#comment-31286 John, we all know the pros and cons of folksonomies and their 'ambiguity' as a fundumental enrichment of the tool, but I'm seeing over and over examples of advanced folksonomies where the tagging process is significantly guided. Facets are a way, but every facet can also host (optional) hierarchical tags and synonyms can be also handled with the help of users (have a look at what LybraryThing is doing). Tags suggestion (AJAX based) can again speed up the action of assigning tags. Probably, statical analysis can further improve the quality of tag clouds (similarity, clustering, etc). I'm sure that the working of tagging as we experience it today is already changing and it will be very different in the near future (particularly in the enterprise environment). John,
we all know the pros and cons of folksonomies and their ‘ambiguity’ as a fundumental enrichment of the tool, but I’m seeing over and over examples of advanced folksonomies where the tagging process is significantly guided.

Facets are a way, but every facet can also host (optional) hierarchical tags and synonyms can be also handled with the help of users (have a look at what LybraryThing is doing). Tags suggestion (AJAX based) can again speed up the action of assigning tags.

Probably, statical analysis can further improve the quality of tag clouds (similarity, clustering, etc).

I’m sure that the working of tagging as we experience it today is already changing and it will be very different in the near future (particularly in the enterprise environment).

]]> by: Johnt http://libraryclips.blogsome.com/2006/05/09/fringe-contacts-people-tagging/#comment-31285 Mon, 10 Jul 2006 01:59:58 +0100 http://libraryclips.blogsome.com/2006/05/09/fringe-contacts-people-tagging/#comment-31285 Emanuele, I totally agree, flat tagging needs some context, and facets are the key...the only difference is the user is still doing the tagging. I guess it would be "facet folksonomies"...still have the problem of ambiguities (synonyms, etc...) but that's the trade off with folksonomies as users are the taggers...we don't need to go into the advantages of user tagging. But at least facets will reduce the mess and increase the findability...not only are the tag values ambiguous as mentioned above, but the tag itself is ambiguous...is it a subject tag, etc... If I had time I would go back to my del.icio.us account and make a document type tag bundle...each time I tag an item with a keyword I would also tag it with a document type. Emanuele,

I totally agree, flat tagging needs some context, and facets are the key…the only difference is the user is still doing the tagging.

I guess it would be “facet folksonomies”…still have the problem of ambiguities (synonyms, etc…) but that’s the trade off with folksonomies as users are the taggers…we don’t need to go into the advantages of user tagging.

But at least facets will reduce the mess and increase the findability…not only are the tag values ambiguous as mentioned above, but the tag itself is ambiguous…is it a subject tag, etc…

If I had time I would go back to my del.icio.us account and make a document type tag bundle…each time I tag an item with a keyword I would also tag it with a document type.

]]> by: Emanuele http://libraryclips.blogsome.com/2006/05/09/fringe-contacts-people-tagging/#comment-31283 Sun, 09 Jul 2006 23:22:43 +0100 http://libraryclips.blogsome.com/2006/05/09/fringe-contacts-people-tagging/#comment-31283 John, I'm completely sure about the faceted approach to tags (both for tagging urls and people), not only as a mean to improve tag scalability,understandibility and browsability but also as a tool than can be mixed with logical operators and search in a sort of information circularity. To further investigate this idea, I've founded a project called FaceTag to experiment the approach. FaceTag is a working prototype of a semantic collaborative tagging tool conceived for bookmarking information architecture resources. It aims to show how the flat keywords space of tags can be effectively mixed with a richer faceted classification scheme to improve the system information architecture. This experiment will be presented at the Euro IA in Berlin later this year. Cheers, Emanuele John,
I’m completely sure about the faceted approach to tags (both for tagging urls and people), not only as a mean to improve tag scalability,understandibility and browsability but also as a tool than can be mixed with logical operators and search in a sort of information circularity.

To further investigate this idea, I’ve founded a project called FaceTag to experiment the approach.

FaceTag is a working prototype of a semantic collaborative tagging tool conceived for bookmarking information architecture resources. It aims to show how the flat keywords space of tags can be effectively mixed with a richer faceted classification scheme to improve the system information architecture.

This experiment will be presented at the Euro IA in Berlin later this year.

Cheers,
Emanuele

]]> by: Johnt http://libraryclips.blogsome.com/2006/05/09/fringe-contacts-people-tagging/#comment-31179 Sat, 27 May 2006 05:44:03 +0100 http://libraryclips.blogsome.com/2006/05/09/fringe-contacts-people-tagging/#comment-31179 Steve, You are right, the extension of this is that it works like a Yellow Pages (as well as a White Pages). Just look up a tag and find the suitable person for the job...and tagging from where ever you are eg. IM makes it so integrated an usable. Steve,

You are right, the extension of this is that it works like a Yellow Pages (as well as a White Pages).
Just look up a tag and find the suitable person for the job…and tagging from where ever you are eg. IM makes it so integrated an usable.

]]> by: Steve Farrell http://libraryclips.blogsome.com/2006/05/09/fringe-contacts-people-tagging/#comment-31172 Wed, 24 May 2006 17:39:16 +0100 http://libraryclips.blogsome.com/2006/05/09/fringe-contacts-people-tagging/#comment-31172 Just a quick note -- in Fringe Contacts name lookups are passed to the directory, so you can look up people by name in order to tag them. However, the goal is to make it so that you can tag people as you encounter references to them. For example, if you receive an IM from someone you tag them then (e.g., say they help you with your wireless card, you might tag them "wifi"). This way you'd normally not need to know someone's email address, nor even look them up by name. Just a quick note — in Fringe Contacts name lookups are passed to the directory, so you can look up people by name in order to tag them. However, the goal is to make it so that you can tag people as you encounter references to them. For example, if you receive an IM from someone you tag them then (e.g., say they help you with your wireless card, you might tag them “wifi”). This way you’d normally not need to know someone’s email address, nor even look them up by name.

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