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October 7, 2005

Wink: meta-tag search and way way more!

Filed under: tags, search

Wink seems to be a new meta-tag search engine.

On a previous post I was lamenting the lack of an engine that would combine all the social bookmark services…we’ll here it is, well almost, I have registered but I’m yet to hear back from them.

From the FAQ:

Tag Cluster in search results

“We crawl and index tags from all over the web, and serve them up with web results […] serving up the most relevant tagged links for your search”.

I wonder if this is similar to Google + del.icio.us clusters.

Tag your own results

Store these in your user page, which I assume will be not too different a concept than del.icio.us.

It seems that part of Wink is a folksonomy like del.icio.us, so the Wink folksonomy tags will be one of the tag services aggregated naturally.

Wink Wiki

You can disambiguate tags for personal context by customising the Wink Wiki for yourself…this way when you search for the term “apple” it will always search the computer and not the fruit…not sure if I’m correct here, but this sounds awesome.

See also

Kind of works like a thesaurus, but it must work like the related tags in del.icio.us, you can even add a human element to this by editing (I wonder if this is a personalisation or a collaborative feature).

Watch a tag set

Must be some sort of inbox to see fresh content…a lot of content these days have RSS versions which people whack in their RSS readers, not sure if the Inbox in del.icio.us or even in Furl are used that often…the del.icio.us, and Simpy inbox, both have channels (like folders) , this makes it a bit more interesting…Simpy even lets you search in a channels, with all the RSS flair.

Tag Set

Now this is kind of like a del.icio.us bundle…from the website:

“…you may have tagged ten different tags related to “Digital Photography”. We let you pull them all together into one Tag Set called “Digital Photography”.

You can even share these by publishing them…become a topic expert.

Other users can watch tag sets, just as they can watch tags.

Wow, this is amazing, on an earlier post today about Jeteye I was posting this stream of consciouness about not just sharing single links like in del.icio.us, but sharing lists of link, in effect sharing topics or tag sets…well there you go!

Rating and Stars

Another layer of social relevancy on the already social content.

Search set

I think this means you can save searches from your search history, from here compile results you like into a set and organise these with tags, and share these with friends via email…from the website:

“For instance, if you have spent a long time researching a subject, for a school report or for a vacation, you can create a package of all the key search results and share that with friends”.

Gee, I can’t wait to see this in action!

Search Technorati’s Blog Finder

Filed under: General, blogs

You can now limit your searches in Technorati to a blog category (not sure if you can choose multiple categories)…this is integrating Technorati Blog Finder into the general Technorati search.

Just enter your search term, then at the section “Search in:” click on “Blogs about:” and enter a topic.

Here’s a search on “enterprise” confined to blogs from the blogosphere that are experts in “rss”.

You can also do a search limited to one blog URL, it would be good if you could search within a selection of blog URL’s, or even search within packets of these like Rollyo.

[thanks Micro Persuasion]

Jeteye: share topics and more

Filed under: tags, folksonomy, search

Jeteye is a new service that I don’t see is too different from del.icio.us.

Firstly you can search the web, and see results from different search engines, so it is a meta-engine.

Now when browsing results you can add it to your active Jetpack.

A jetpack is a package you can make, it is a list of links under a topic name (make up a Jetpack name…you can make as many as you like)

…every Jetpack has its own permalink.

You can create a Jetpack by clicking on “Start a New package”, just add a title and submit some links, or if you can’t think of some links, use the search engine to find some, and click “add to active package” that is next to each item…just remember you’re adding items to your active Jetpack.

Only thing is I can view all my Jetpacks on my user page, but I can’t change my current active Jetpack, it won’t move.

Features of a Jetpack besides links:

- Link to other peoples Jetpacks from within your Jetpack.

- Images

- Share (send someone a Jetpack from your contacts list)

- Notes

- Ratings

- Tags

Coming soon is IM, SMS or RSS notification of jetpaks sent to you and similar notification if someone adds to your jetpaks

You can also edit/add (called Contribute) to each others jetpacks if you set to share.

So really these are a topic with links (content) plus links to other topics (Jetpacks), and you can add notes, rate, tag, even edit/add to each others packs…and you can find links to add by using the search engine and add an item from the results in one click, instead of opening another browser to use a search engine, then cutting and pasting the URL across.

Now this is where it comes together, when you do a search on Jeteye, it lists results from the web, but will also list results of your keyword within Jetpacks (human chosen pages of the web).

You can now see pages recommended by others according to that keyword, as opposed to just relying on the the open web with PageRank relevancy…well I guess these recommended pages are ranked, but you are reducing the noise of the open web results by searching in the social web.

This doesn’t seem much different to Furl or Zniff (Spurl)…it’s a full-text search of the human-indexed web.

But what about searching by tag, or exploring and discovering tags…this way you are not only searching pages within the social web, but you are browsing by tag, where all pages will be alike, akin to topic browsing a directory.

It seems to be promoted as sharing your search results…but is this really happening. It just seems you are sharing items/packs (list of links) that are listed under a heading, and organised in tags.

It is different to del.icio.us because you can contribute to others users stuff, and you can’t search full-text in del.icio.us, also del.icio.us doesn’t have a web engine integrated to search the open web.

The other difference is that you have permalinks, where you can make a topic with items and tag the topic.
You can almost do this in del.icio.us if your tag bundle had a permalink, as the tag bundle heading is like the Jetpack Title, and you could have a list of items (but in del.icio.us this list of items are within tags), whereas in a Jetpack you have a running list of items and you can describe the whole list with tag/s.

By using pasta with del.icio.us you could make a title, enter text as a whole lot of links, and give it a few tags…or just use the TagFacts note/text folksonomy.

Then this becomes an item in your del.icio.us account, just like a Jetpack is an item in your Jeteye account…only the Jetpack is a permalink, whereas del.icio.us items don’t have permalinks, (although Furl items do).

Wow, this is coming back to a blog-based folksonomy, only every post would be a topic list of links.

So the main difference is that in del.icio.us an item is one link, whereas in Jeteye an item (called a Jetpack) is a list of links…so does this make it similar to H2O Playlist (I still haven’t checked this out).

I wonder if I should go over to Ning and try and make a service where you can share lists of links (stored in a permalink) as opposed to just sharing single links…as mentioned before this would be a blog-based folksonomy as you wouldn’t be restricted to a list of links you could just type in any old text in your post, unless the post area was a form.

This has been a hard one, I’m still not to sure what the unique idea is?

See how it works, and other reviews.

Elicit: off-line blog client

Filed under: blogs, tools

Elicit is similar to other offline blogging clients although it’s not for free.

You can publish to multiple blogs, plan and schedule posts, and intergrate your favourite RSS services and more within Elicit.

KnowNow eLerts

Filed under: rss, tools

KnowNow eLerts is browser based feed alert tool.

They claim it is not an RSS reader, it only pops up a box to notify you of new content from the feeds you have entered into the toolbar.

This is like using the SharpReader notifier without having the actual RSS reader, just the notifier on it’s own.

I wonder if Knownow could make a version where you don’t need a toolbar, you can just have a widget or something in your systems tray…is this similar to combining several klips.

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