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August 17, 2005

Simpy vs. del.icio.us

Filed under: General, tags, folksonomy

Otis over at Simpy has a post on the better features and functionality it has over del.icio.us.

Easy to write tags (supports spaces for multiple word tags)…yeah!!

Here is some of the FAQ.

CHECK IT OUT

Syntax
AND, OR, NOT, “phrase”, wildcard*, stemming
(del.icio.us only does AND)

Search
Searches for terms in the Title, alt title, tag,
….full-text (I couldn’t find full-text searching, it does link to the cache of the page at the Wayback Machine)

It would be good to select a field to search in…ie. just title, just comments, etc…at the moment the only single field search is the Tags field.

[ADDED 19/08/05: See this update for searching full-text, and searching in just one field or a combination].

Refine searching
+, -, ~
This works for both the Tags field and just general searching

Search box
Whack a search box in your blog to search your simpy account

Private/Public

Notes
Save full-text notes (tag, or full-text search)
I do this in del.icio.us using pasta.

Notes works as a separate channel to your links

Topics
Multiple inboxes to view Simpy users or tags (all RSSed)
del.icio.us has a new feature like this where you can make sections in your inbox
Although Simpy takes it even further to make a search query within a topic (Topic Filters) to lessen the noise

Bookmarklets
Bookmark a webpage, Search your account, Link history of any webpage, Save a note, Search your notes

Home page

Each bookmark has a link to see:

Similar pages
Link history (URL page) shows all people who bookmarked it, plus a graph of the date trend (popularity of a link overtime)
Mail it
Cache (via Wayback Machine)

User Account

View all bookmarks and tags
View their tag cloud or tag set (top 20, 50, all)…each tag has a labelled number for quantity of bookmarks
View bookmarks by date added
Search their links, search their notes
View a list of related users

Missing
Fielded search (missing in all social bookmark managers)
Full-text search (or I can’t find it)
RSS for tags
RSS for user tags
RSS for search, and RSS for boolean tag search
Search all accounts
Code to show links on a blog sidebar
RSS for Topics (and filters)
Refine searching
Tag set bundles (incl. RSS feeds)
People search
Threaded comments per general bookmark

Only for the owner of the account

Order results by usage frequency or date

Each link has a details page…if this was for public viewing each users bookmark could have it’s own permalink, just like a blog (del.irio.us does this…also Tagsurf, Tagifieds, although the last 2 are not specifically designed as bookmark managers)

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  1. John - thanks for the follow-up.

    You are right about most of the missing features. I’ll be addressing most of them in the September release.
    However, the following 2 features are already there:
    - Fielded search (missing in all social bookmark managers)
    - Full-text search (or I can’t find it)

    For fielded search, just search with “field:text-here”. For example, title:rss
    Here are the results:
    http://www.simpy.com/simpy/User.do?username=otis&q=title%3Arss
    (Note the number of hits - 7 - and all links have RSS in the title. Some may also have rss in the full-text content or in tags, but the match comes from the title field.)
    There are several fields you can use (listed in the FAQ), and you can use any combination of them to form really precise queries.

    The full-text search is also there. If you look at the results for the above URL, you will see dynamically generated snippets in a KWIC format (KWIC - Key Word In Context - an Information Retrieval term for snippets around original query terms), with search terms highlighted. These snippets come from the full-text content.
    Another example:
    http://www.simpy.com/simpy/User.do?username=otis&q=rss

    Note the number of matches there - 151 currently. This tells you that this searches more than just link meta-data.

    Comment by Otis — August 17, 2005 @ 7:43 pm

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