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July 27, 2005

Tagifieds: bulletin board folksonomy

Filed under: tags, folksonomy

Tagifieds is a service that uses tags to self organise a community bulletin board.

From the website:

“Tagifieds is different from del.icio.us, Flickr, and other tagging sites. These sites are fabulous in their own right, but are designed for very specific types of content (bookmarks and photos, respectively). Tagifieds, on the other hand, is a general-purpose bulletin board. Your posts consist of text and file attachments, which can contain whatever you want.”

So the difference is that the bookmark doesn’t revolve around a link to a web page, the bookmark itself revolves around your own text and images
…so in fact it is more like a post than a bookmark.

It lacks a who else bookmarked this item feature…won’t get as much value out of seeing who else bookmarked the same item, as this service is more geared towards a bulletin board than sharing web link interests.

Tagified is kind of like using pasta with del.icio.us or a service like Tagsurf…more on that here.

This features of this service make it very versatile: use it as a bulletin board (main purpose and function), blog, bookmarks, forum, to-do list, etc…

Features

  • Search box for a tag
  • Tag stemming
  • Popular tags (called related tags)
    refine results by adding or excluding a tag (similar to del.icio.us adding two tags, but del.icio.us can’t exclude a tag)
  • Space separated assumes AND, also can use OR, -, parenthesis, wildcards (* - stemming), and price ranges
  • Recent tags box (bottom of page) - tag viewing session history
  • User name is an automatic tag (”~” prefix)
    these are listed as tags, I think user names should be kept in another list and not mixed with the tag list
  • Group feature - also an automatic tag (”#” prefix)
  • Permalink tag - this tag is unique to only one item (”@” prefix)
    this way the permatag becomes a direct link to the item, compared to a link of the item which lives somewhere within the tag
  • Public or private tags (user and group versions)
  • Price tag (”$” prefix)…ha! ha!…had to happen someday!
  • Flag an item to report it as spam, add to the “best of” group, etc…
  • RSS for any tag set
  • Reply to a post - notifies the owner who can email you back
    only other tag service with this feature is Tagsurf…comments in del.icio.us are different as you can’t leave a comment on someones bookmark, you can only comment on the same bookmark if you save it yourself (so in essence comments aren’t really private), this also lacks a notification feature
  • Add Attachments/Images to a post or bookmark (whatever you call it)
  • Supports HTML mark-up (format your posts)
  • Automatic Google Map links by typing in a form.

So this is like a folksonomy for your own authored content rather than bookmarks (this service is geared towards being a bulletin board)

I suppose Tagsurf is more of a folksonomy for a forum or your own authored content, next we’ll see a notesonomy (a folksonomy for notes or quotes)
…I can only see a notesonomy working at a group level, because people wouldn’t really get value out of sharing peronal notes (notes are primarily only valuable to a person who wrote it or to someone or a group who understands the context)…I guess Tagsurf can work this way.

Also read the take on “Holisitic vs. Faceted tagging”…great stuff!

From the website:

“The difference between these approaches lies in the relationship of the tags to the content: in holistic tagging a tag itself is content; in faceted tagging a tag is just an attribute of a separate piece of content.

Tags on 43 Things are holistic: they are life goals that different uses can share. Tags on tagifieds, however, are only aspects of a separate object (a post) that when added up help to describe it. By themselves they are basically useless….My contention is that faceted tagging is best suited to use one-word descriptors that are added up to try to describe a content object. Holistic tagging is best suited to use longer phrases because the tags themselves are charged with more responsibility.”

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  1. Hello, this is Josh, developer and founder of tagifieds. Thanks for writing about the site - you’ve done a good job summarizing it!

    I thought it worthwhile to mention that I have just implemented a few changes to the system, outlined here. Specifically, I’m no longer using the “~” and “#” prefixes and have moved to “user:” and “group:” prefixes. This is because I’ve restricted the characters allowed in tags to make them URL-friendly. I’ve also implemented the “private” tag as a universal privacy tag that can act either in group or user scopes.

    As for the value of sharing personal notes, you’re right that it’s fairly minimal, but tagging is useful in its own right as a personal organizational tool. I use tagifieds to keep to-do lists and notes, all of which are tagged private. Sometimes my notes end up being worthy of sharing with other people, at which time I format them nicely and switch them to public.

    You mention that you’d prefer to see usernames as a separate list from the tags themselves - can you say more about that? I’m interested in where you’re going with that.

    At any rate, thanks for the positive review. Cheers!

    Comment by Josh Whiting — July 28, 2005 @ 4:13 am

  2. Josh,

    Yeah you’re right, tagging to-do notes is a good idea to organise them (they don’t have to be part of the folksonomy as you can keep them private)

    Maybe someone should make a simple tool solely dedicated to notes like Webnote but have tagging to organise your notes (also have the option of making your notes public if need be…so I guess it could be a sharing and discovery system (a folksonomy) as well.

    Anyway I thought you could browse a list of tags, and also browse a list of users (having them in the same list doesn’t work for me…not that it does any harm, it just doesn’t feel organised properly…it’s a personal thing)
    I see that next to each item you can link to the user, just like in del.icio.us, but you can’t see a list of other users who also bookmarked that item (as I mentioned in my post this isn’t as important for Tagifieds).

    del.icio.us doesn’t include user links in there tagcloud or tagset, then again they don’t have a user list at all.

    Comment by Johnt — July 28, 2005 @ 5:37 am

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