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July 27, 2005

Tagifieds: bulletin board folksonomy

Filed under: tags, folksonomy

Tagifieds is a service that uses tags to self organise a community bulletin board.

From the website:

“Tagifieds is different from del.icio.us, Flickr, and other tagging sites. These sites are fabulous in their own right, but are designed for very specific types of content (bookmarks and photos, respectively). Tagifieds, on the other hand, is a general-purpose bulletin board. Your posts consist of text and file attachments, which can contain whatever you want.”

So the difference is that the bookmark doesn’t revolve around a link to a web page, the bookmark itself revolves around your own text and images
…so in fact it is more like a post than a bookmark.

It lacks a who else bookmarked this item feature…won’t get as much value out of seeing who else bookmarked the same item, as this service is more geared towards a bulletin board than sharing web link interests.

Tagified is kind of like using pasta with del.icio.us or a service like Tagsurf…more on that here.

This features of this service make it very versatile: use it as a bulletin board (main purpose and function), blog, bookmarks, forum, to-do list, etc…

Features

  • Search box for a tag
  • Tag stemming
  • Popular tags (called related tags)
    refine results by adding or excluding a tag (similar to del.icio.us adding two tags, but del.icio.us can’t exclude a tag)
  • Space separated assumes AND, also can use OR, -, parenthesis, wildcards (* - stemming), and price ranges
  • Recent tags box (bottom of page) - tag viewing session history
  • User name is an automatic tag (”~” prefix)
    these are listed as tags, I think user names should be kept in another list and not mixed with the tag list
  • Group feature - also an automatic tag (”#” prefix)
  • Permalink tag - this tag is unique to only one item (”@” prefix)
    this way the permatag becomes a direct link to the item, compared to a link of the item which lives somewhere within the tag
  • Public or private tags (user and group versions)
  • Price tag (”$” prefix)…ha! ha!…had to happen someday!
  • Flag an item to report it as spam, add to the “best of” group, etc…
  • RSS for any tag set
  • Reply to a post - notifies the owner who can email you back
    only other tag service with this feature is Tagsurf…comments in del.icio.us are different as you can’t leave a comment on someones bookmark, you can only comment on the same bookmark if you save it yourself (so in essence comments aren’t really private), this also lacks a notification feature
  • Add Attachments/Images to a post or bookmark (whatever you call it)
  • Supports HTML mark-up (format your posts)
  • Automatic Google Map links by typing in a form.

So this is like a folksonomy for your own authored content rather than bookmarks (this service is geared towards being a bulletin board)

I suppose Tagsurf is more of a folksonomy for a forum or your own authored content, next we’ll see a notesonomy (a folksonomy for notes or quotes)
…I can only see a notesonomy working at a group level, because people wouldn’t really get value out of sharing peronal notes (notes are primarily only valuable to a person who wrote it or to someone or a group who understands the context)…I guess Tagsurf can work this way.

Also read the take on “Holisitic vs. Faceted tagging”…great stuff!

From the website:

“The difference between these approaches lies in the relationship of the tags to the content: in holistic tagging a tag itself is content; in faceted tagging a tag is just an attribute of a separate piece of content.

Tags on 43 Things are holistic: they are life goals that different uses can share. Tags on tagifieds, however, are only aspects of a separate object (a post) that when added up help to describe it. By themselves they are basically useless….My contention is that faceted tagging is best suited to use one-word descriptors that are added up to try to describe a content object. Holistic tagging is best suited to use longer phrases because the tags themselves are charged with more responsibility.”

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RojoBlog: new features

Filed under: General, rss, readers

In an earlier post I was finding it difficult managaing my read and unread content…now the RojoBlog announces that it has some updated features.

Now the number of unread items is denoted at the tag level as well as by each feed.

In Rojo if you have finished reading a feed and don’t mark all stories as read (mark as read), the content will stay as unread (unlike Bloglines which assumes that you have read a feed once it has been clicked-if you don’t get a chance to finish you can click “mark all new”)
….so Rojo and Bloglines work in opposite ways in this manner.

The confusing organisational thing I don’t like about Bloglines is that if you mark an item to read later (keep new), it stays as an unread item and your feed will stay in bold…why can’t there just be a separate folder for this stuff (Rojo has a separate folder for flagged items)…I mean Bloglines has folders for clipped items, why can’t it have folders for flagged items.

So if you mark a feed as read in Rojo (mark as read), you will have no unread items, naturally.
Now when you click on that feed again you will see all the items, whereas in Bloglines it is empty, and you have a choice of viewing the recent items according to time.

A new feature in Rojo is to set the feed to show only unread items (Show Unread Only), in this case the feed is empty, if you toggle it to show both read and unread items (Show Read & Unread ) you will see every item in that feed.
This is a good idea as previously you could only tell a “read item” if it was coloured dark red, as opposed to bright red for an “unread item” (maybe they should choose two different colors).

An interesting feature on Rojo is that if you click on any function within an item or post (whether to read the native site, share, flag, tag, expand/collapse) it will keep these items in a folder called “stories I’ve read”.
It must consider these items important because you have clicked on it for some reason
…I suppose it’s easier or quicker to find something you know you have clicked on before, in the “stories I’ve read”, folder compared to looking through all the items in all your feeds.

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