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May 24, 2005

News aggregators: what are the differences?

Filed under: General, rss, newsmaster

Follow-up to a previous post…thinking of different approaches in making an automated RSS news portal.

Currently I am making a news portal and am wondering which news aggregator are the best bet for the source of my content…I guess I need to use them all and compare the results and go with the news aggregator I like the best as the source for my portal…or I could use all of them.

The idea is that the RSS feeds will directly syndicate the content (to a Blogdigger group) without me having to moderate the quality of the articles…if my search query is precise enough the portal can work automatically with a high quality of relevant content.

The 3 news aggregators I am looking at are Google News, Yahoo! News, and Topix…a search query RSS feed will be generated from each of these sites and will then be fed into a Blogdigger group (acting as the portal)

Before I release the portal I want to see if it is worth having all 3 feeds:

  • what is the average quantity of overlap?
  • what is the average quantity of unique items?
  • how many items per day to read?

Questions

  • Is there a way for duplicate URL’s to be removed?

    Each news aggregator may remove their own duplicates, but then I’ll have to remove the duplicates between the 3 of them…apparently Blogdigger groups doesn’t have this feature.

    On this aspect, I wonder if private RSS Readers can remove duplicates…I know Newsgator does something to this effect (does anyone know the process involved?)

  • What if I like to use all of them because each of them returns relevant results that the others miss?

    Problem is with my current search term I’m getting about an average of about 70 hits in total, this is too many hits for my client to scan and read in 15 minutes everyday.

  • I wonder how many hits will be left if duplicates are removed?
  • If I can’t remove duplicates, there will be too many hits, so I will have to just use content from only one of these feeds (Google News or Yahoo! News or Topix)
  • Even if I do remove duplicates I still may have too many hits for my clients to scan and read in 15 minutes.
  • So I will have to go with one feed, ie. use only one news aggregator as the source for my portal.

    If this is the case I could use Google News customised and not even need to use a portal.

    Or I could have the news according to source by having 3 RSS-to-JAVA boxes on a web page

  • Or I could use all three and have them in a drop down menu like EEVL’s - OneStep Industry News…this requires some expertise to develop.

    EEVL’s - OneStep Industry News is a great example of a list of news feeds that also shows the latest content and (also is a searchable database) …it’s like a customised version of a Blogdigger group.
    The feeds are represented at three levels: top level (all feeds), 2nd level (all feeds within a subject, they are Engineering, Mathematics, Computing, and General Technology), and the 3rd level (all individual feeds).
    The only problem is if you want to read this content in your own RSS reader like Bloglines, you can only subscribe to the 3rd level feeds, there isn’t a mega-feed (compilation feed) at the 1st or 2nd level. I guess if you wanted to you could make your own mixed feeds but it would be good if EEVL already had them primed.

    I also like the way University of Saskatchewan Library and CiteULike journals list their feeds, showing the latest content with available RSS feed when you click on a link.

May 20, 2005

RSS: filter and re-mix

Filed under: General, rss, newsmaster, tools, search

Here are some ways you can maniuplate feeds to only receive the content you want to receive (helps with information overload).
Sometimes you only like some of the content coming from a feed but you don’t want to unsubscribe…a way to alleviate this situation is to subscribe to a category feed if available, otherwise make your own with the tools below, or make a search term feed for that particular website or weblog.

Also below are some ways to re-mix feeds (merge feeds into one mega-feed) so all your content is streamlined into the one topic-based feed…some tools also can filter for search terms.
This inturn can be re-syndicated…great newsmastering tools for developing topic portals.

MAKE A SEARCH FEED
MAKE A LINK SEARCH FEED
MAKE A SITE SEARCH FEED (another version of a native feed)
MAKE A SEARCH TERM FEED WITHIN A SITE SEARCH (filter)
MAKE A CATEGORY FEED
MAKE A CATEGORY FEED WITHIN A SITE SEARCH (category feed for your blog)
MAKE A CATEGORY FEED WITHIN A SITE SEARCH WITH A SEARCH TERM
MAKE A RELATED FEED (related articles to your blog)
MAKE AN OPML SEARCH FEED
MAKE A RE-MIX FEED (splice and/or filter)

MAKE A SEARCH FEED

Eg. using RocketNews [RSS]

Blogs

Web

News

Groups

Social Bookmarks

Tools

MAKE A LINK SEARCH FEED

Eg. using Blogpulse [RSS]

Blogs

Web

News

Groups

Social Bookmarks

Not available as an RSS feed in Furl, openBM, CiteULike.
Not sure about others, such as Simpy, Spurl, etc..

Tools

MAKE A SITE SEARCH FEED (another version of the native feed)
Note: use OR or | where available for multiple sites

Why do this…if you already offer a full-text RSS feed, generate one of these feeds to also offer an excerpt RSS feed.

Eg. using Feedster [RSS]

Blogs

Web

News

Groups

Tools

MAKE A SEARCH TERM FEED WITHIN A SITE SEARCH (filter)

Eg. using MSN [RSS]

RSS Readers

Blogs

Web

News

Groups

Tools

MAKE A CATEGORY FEED

Eg. using Blogdigger [RSS]

Blogs

News

MAKE A CATEGORY FEED WITHIN A SITE SEARCH (category feed for your blog)

Eg. using Blogdigger [RSS]

Blogs

For Blogdigger you can use blogID: instead of author:, and for IceRocket you can use +blogId: instead of author:
To find your blogID on both engines just do an author: search on IceRocket, and a site: search on Blogdigger, then on one of the results from that author click on focus, blogID is more unique than author as many people could have the same author name.

News

This is like making an RSS feed for a category in your blog (use the OR function to make a feed of multiple categories within your blog)

A more manual approach is to bookmark every post in a social bookmark manager with the tags labelled the same as your blog categories…the tag RSS feeds can be used as your blog category RSS feeds (del.icio.us allows you to combine categories)

MAKE A CATEGORY FEED WITHIN A SITE SEARCH WITH A SEARCH TERM

Eg. using Topix [RSS]

Blogs

News

MAKE A RELATED FEED (related articles to your blog)

Eg. using Findory - blogs [RSS]

MAKE AN OPML SEARCH FEED

Eg. using Feedster [RSS]

MAKE A RE-MIX FEED (splice and/or filter)

Also know as; blending, splicing, compilation, synthetic, meta…feeds.

Note: Google seems to be covering blog content.

Eg. site:libraryclips.blogsome.com

Using link: only returns results from the blog in question instead of other blogs (isn’t meant to show who is linking to you).

Check out, Re-syndication: sidebar updates and more

Also see the great list from 3spots, Search Engine RSS generators.

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HERE IS AN RSS FEED FOR THIS BLOG POST

…as you can see this blog post is constantly being updated.

IF YOU DON’T USE A PERSONAL RSS READER YOU CAN USE THE SERVICE BELOW.

Subscribe to this web page
using email or RSS!
(more info)

Re-syndication: sidebar updates and more

Filed under: rss, newsmaster, tools

Here is a list of tools that enable re-syndication of feeds.

Most of these are RSS to Java tools that enable a box of headlines to be placed in your sidebar with news syndicated from an RSS feed, some re-syndicate an RSS feeds content as your main blog content or website content.

Note: Java is usually not picked up by search engines whereas PHP is, this can help boost your rankings.

Magic RSS-scrolling news (pay $1 pay pal)
Bitty browser (wow!)…see more
Feedsweep
RSS Digest (also does HTML)…now Feed Digest
RSS Mix
FeedJumbler
Feed2JS
RSS to javascript
RSS to Javascript
Webpastie-scrolling news eg. (pay)
Blog box
Feedforall (HTML PHP)
RSS2HTML
Feedroll (no longer roll your own feed)..try Feedroll Pro (pay)
RSSinclude (PHP, Java, IFrame) [ADDED: 28/06/05]
Feedburner - Headline Animator or Buzzboost [ADDED: 13/07/05]
Feedsplitter [ADDED: 26/07/05]
RSSxpress-Lite [ADDED: 30/09/05]
aggRSSive (also a folksonomy) [ADDED: 10/10/05]
rapidfeeds (also a promote your site) [ADDED: 15/1/06]
NEWSiness (also a promote your site) [ADDED: 22/2/06]
FeedBucket [ADDED: 14/3/06]
StepWebz (also a promote your site, includes an RSS Ticker) [ADDED: 22/3/06]
Feedo Style (includes an RSS Ticker, banner) [ADDED: 05/4/06]
FeedDirect [ADDED: 18/01/07]
FlareMaker [ADDED: 27/01/07]
Badger [ADDED: 24/02/07]
RSSconverters.com [ADDED: 06/03/07]
FeedFlash [ADDED: 06/03/07]
FeedFeeds [ADDED: 08/05/07]
RSSFeedReader [ADDED: 16/05/07]
Feedtwister [ADDED: 01/06/07]

RSS Mixer [ADDED 30/07/07]

Check out this post for lots of widgets that now do re-syndication or act at a mini RSS Reader, plus track metrics.

Robin Good has a list going with some advanced inclusions.

Check out, RSS: filter and re-mix

May 19, 2005

News by RSS: Curate or syndicate

Filed under: General, blogs, rss, newsmaster

Follow up on an earlier post .

Working on a way to deliver industry news to my clients in a no fuss way.

The easiest way is to use Google news customised and create 10 or so topic tabs, this is an amazing but simple tool…but then this is news from just one source.

Another option is to use RSS to JAVA or PHP and have a web page with about 10 topic boxes…this way I can include news from multiple sources ie. I could mix RSS feeds from Yahoo! News, Google News, Topix, and PubSub, etc…via Blogdigger Groups or RSS mix
or Feedjumbler or Feedmarker into one re-mixed feed (do this 10 times, one for each topic).

The 3rd option is to make 10 Superblogs or 10 Blogdigger Groups with about 5 or so feeds in each group…or even a public Bloglines account.

These 3 options are all the easiest (automated), but are only has good as my search terms, there may be a lot of noise in the results.

A more precise but time consuming approach is to bookmark all the news items in Furl (even categorise them), but this isn’t visually effective for my needs…so I could use RSS to HTML (or JAVA or PHP) to re-syndicate the content to a blog. (to find past content you could use the blog, but you can’t browse by category, you’d have to go to Furl to search by category)

To augment this it would be good to be able to clip to Furl from within Bloglines or Newsgator (maybe I could use a RSS reader/bookmark managers like Pluck or Feedmarker, as I could clip to a folder which has its own RSS feed)…in this way I don’t need to use Furl (but I do like Furl’s public searchable archive).

Last choice is to manually blog each entry via a Blog this! Bookmarklet or even use reBlog to re-publish the whole content.

In the end, the most visually effective for my purposes is to use Google news customised or re-syndicate 10 boxes of news on the one web page.
A major point about this process is that it works by itself (I only need to set it up)…the downside is there will be some noise and it will lack a personal archive.

The 3rd option is less effective in presentation but at least you have an archive…another disadvantage is that you now have 10 blogs for news instead of all the news on one page.

The last options are ideal as you can; format a blog’s presentation to your clients needs, the results are precise, and you have a searchable archive…the major obstacle is that you have to manually post to this blog one way or another daily (so it really is a different scenario in this respect).

View bookmarks by date

Filed under: General, blogs, tags

At the end of my post on Connotea I mentioned an “Alternate View” by date.

Here is the excerpt:

“You can view all public bookmarks sorted by date…ie. using the date as a section title, like a blog
o At the moment you have to click on a date (which is noted on the end of every bookmark)…wouldn’t it be good if there was a calendar archive (like on a blog) to view entries made on any date

o I’d like to view this at the user level
(see dashLog)”

Furl only lets you sort by date (newest to oldest and vice versa).
del.icio.us is text only.
citeULike is text only
Del.irio.us is text only
- when you click on expand, each bookmark marks the date as a heading above the bookmark title (this is no different from the others really as the date has just been shifted from the end of a bookmark-as a little note-to the top of the bookmark-as a large heading.

So this is a unique aspect to Connotea…now as I mentioned above this would be more usable if there was a calendar archive to click on.

But even more useful would be to see this at the user level.

This is when the unique but simple features of dashLog shine…it simply has a date heading for all items bookmarked within that date…also see an earlier post.
(this is a common feature in many blogs, but it seems more prominent in dashLog)

The only thing missing is a date archive, and categories/tags (coming soon) with RSS feeds I hope.

When these features are added this will be a link blog that has both the characteristics of a blog and a bookmark manager…a lot of this has to do with presentation, I think most bookmark managers have these features, if only they would be presented in this fashion.

I feel Connotea or any other bookmark manager could have an alternate view by date that assimilates the presentation of dashLog…this could be viewed at the public level, the public tag level, the user level, and the user tag level.

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