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April 28, 2005

del.icio.us bookmarklets re-visited

Filed under: General

Here are some more del.icio.us bookmarklets…thanks to Quick Online Tips

post.icio.us - New Tools for Quicker Posts in del.icio.us

Even quicker ways of posting to del.icio.us than the current bookmarks, and what a variety.

New Search Tools for Del.icio.us

These are the one’s I’ve been looking for, include:

Search your bookmarks in your account

Search single or multiple tags in all accounts

Also available for searching other users accounts

Absolutely Del.icio.us - Complete Tool Collection

This is where they all live…have fun…although it’s exhausting.

NOTE: Trying to track down some posts that let you add services to your right-click mouse button.

I used these on my old work computer, but I can’t find the posts that have the goodies…I think I had Furl, Bloglines and Technorati (and maybe del.icio.us)
The Furl it! one is great because it lets you Furl frames within a page, and I like adding feeds to Bloglines by a simple right click.

Where are they….arghh!

April 27, 2005

Curating a clip blog

Filed under: General, blogs, rss, tags, newsmaster

Just to re-iterate from two earlier posts.

reBlog for clips
Doing different things with blogs

Apparently by using reBlog you can post an entry (via bookmarklet) from your RSS aggregator into your blog. This duplicates the content and at the end of the post lists the source. They mention this is a great feature for people that don’t write their own posts but like to clip or curate content.

Bloglines clip blog has this to an extent, but when you clip it just clips the Blog post title only (it doesn’t re-publish the content).

Another way of having a clip blog or link blog is for people to subscribe to the RSS or RSS of a tag, or a search RSS (Furl only) of your Furl or del.icio.us account. This way they can receive your clips with an annotated abstract or comment if you like.

What if the users want to read the actual site instead of subscribing to the RSS?
Well they can do this but the bookmark managers don’t have date marked entries like blogs, so the presentation isn’t as suitable.

Although, you can use RSS Digest to convert your RSS feed from del.icio.us or Furl into HTML so the information in a particular feed can be presented in a blog with date marked entries.
The only thing is you can’t have categories in your blog, you need a separate blog for each RSS feed.

The only tool I’ve seen so far that blurs this line is the social bookmark manager, del.irio.us. It is similar to del.icio.us, but in your main page you can choose to expand the list to see the annotation or clipping/abstact
Most different of all is that all your entries run by datemarked order, which is the common blog format.
So it is a bookmark manager that streams or presents content like a blog (date-marked)

Check out how community engine formulates a clip blog.
(Ist comment on this blog post)

Here is Bud’s weblog (click WebCite’s tab)

Extra’s:

Post to del.icio.us from bloglines
Blogmarks also does this.

Superblog
Automatically present content from multiple RSS feeds into a blog.

But still you can’t have categories for each of these feeds, well you can list the feeds and they can act as your categories, but if you click on it you have to view the content at the original site, I want to be able to view the category content within the blog.

I guess this is similar to one of the features of Blogdigger groups.

Here is an example

Behind the scenes at Superblog is PlanetPlanet.

April 26, 2005

Generate a search feed from one feed

Filed under: General, rss, newsmaster

In a post a while back I was trying to figure out how to generate a search RSS feed from just one RSS feed.

Not sure if I can do this on Blogdigger groups.

When I turn only one feed on I can’t seem to search within just this one feed, therefore I can’t generate a search RSS feed.

Not sure if this is just a bug.

But as it turns out I can use the main Blogdigger search engine to search in just one RSS feed by using the “site:” prefix or the “blogID” prefix.

Here are some examples for my blog:

all my posts

site: libraryclips.blogsome.com
Here is the RSS feed (Wow, an alternate feed for my blog!)

free-text search for the term Spurl

site: libraryclips.blogsome.com spurl
Here is the RSS feed

search in a category

site:libraryclips.blogsome.com subject:furl
Here is the RSS feed (Category feeds for your blog)

Replace the blogID for the site prefix…find the blogID by hovering your mouse on the focus link (sits under each result)

I wonder if this works in other popular blog or RSS engines.

If Blogdigger doesn’t have the particular RSS feed you want to generate a search RSS feed from then you will have to submit it.

I’m not sure if Blogdigger is just for blog feeds or if they welcome any old RSS feed…I suppose this is the beauty of Blogdigger groups, as you can do what you want, it’s your group…only if it would work (hopefully it’s just a bug)

The cool thing about this is the you can put a Blogdigger search box on your blog to search just your blog…you’d have to put a search tips link to inform users of using the command searching for categories demonstrated above, unless you could put a drop-down menu of categories in your search box…how cool would that be!

NOTE: to generate a search RSS feed from just one RSS feed related to news, use Yahoo news (advanced search).

Eg. Put the source in the source field and search term in the search field or use the “inurl:” prefix (although I can only view all articles in this publication, I can’t put in a search term)

Thanks to the Do-It Yourself Librarian

ADDED 05/05/05: Feedster can also search within one feed, generating a refined feed.

Use Google to search Furl!

Filed under: General, tags

Spurl is a social bookmarking manager similar to Furl. Zniff is a search engine for all the collective Spurl accounts.

Furl has a public version of single accounts (unless marked private by the account holder) so you can search an individual archive.
It also has a collective search engine of all the Furl accounts, but you have to search this from your own account.

What if you don’t have a Furl account (even though they are free!)

A way around this is to use Google:

inurl:furl.net/members trigon

in this example “trigon” is the search term

Although it doesn’t accept “phrase searching”…I tried to do a search for “tax and taxonomies” which is an article I have in my Furl archive, but it returned 2 hits from other Furl accounts that had both the words in the bookmark, but not as a phrase.

Another way is using the site search function:

site:furl.net/members trigon

Technorati tags and Tag Central both search Furl, but only for a tag and the contents within, they don’t search the full-text.

Integrating tagging software

Filed under: tags, folksonomy

As mentioned by Blogdriverswaltz, Freetag is an application that enables you to create tags on an existing database. This extensible feature allows a database, website, OPAC to include tagging as a feature of their offerings. I wonder if any major sites have implemented this software, it would be good to compare the logs to see if the how often the tag clouds (a way to present the tags in a folksonomy of a website) are being used compared to the navigation features.

April 22, 2005

del.icio.us bundles

Filed under: General, tags

Just heard from Blogdriverswaltz that del.icio.us has a beta mode of bundling tags. ie you can now have a parent category tag for a group of tags…don’t know much about it yet, haven’t had a chance to play with it.

Here is the URL - http://del.icio.us/settings/YOURUSERID/bundle

OPML search

Filed under: General, rss, readers, search, opml

Library Stuff points to developments at Feedster which allow you to search Bloglines OPML’s. Bloglines lets you search your own subscriptions, now you can search others.

Another way to do this is import your OPML into a Blogdigger group, and use the search function…see here.

April 19, 2005

Tagging alone is not a panacea for retrieval!

Filed under: tags, search

A great post on the future capabilities of tags and the idea of the semantic web.

I like this part on the fine line between blogs and bookmarking when it comes to traditional link blogging…from the post:

…looks like the there is an intersection between bookmarking and weblogging, where ‘link blogging’, the process of creating content that is a link to a site with a short comment, rather than a full length blog post, is possibly better handled through a dedicated bookmarking system such as Del.icio.us or Wists posting to a blog via standard API’s while adding to a shared directory in parallel.

Also mentions about tagging in context which leads to more precision and avoids ambiguity…giving the tags themselves a tag, eg. apple = fruit, where apple is the tag and fruit is the metatag…read on…or give it a try at Wists.

Another great post at Wetware (Spurl and Zniff creator) about the several elements or attributes consulted that make for optimum retrieval, not just by tag alone. It is explained that using user-based tags as the only element consulted in the retrieval process is not optimum because of the quality of the term or tag, so other methods used in unison can add value to the weight of the retrieval.

Elements consulted and weighted when processing search results:

User related

  • tag itself
  • clippings (snippet of the text the user includes in the bookmark)
  • comment (user comments about the bookmark)
  • trust in respected user

Other

  • author mark-up of the web page
  • word frequency
  • link analysis

An excerpt:

“When searching for something, you don’t want to end up empty handed just because nobody had thought of tagging a resource with the terms that you entered. The relevant terms must be seen as layers of information, where your tags and other terms that you have assigned play a central role, then comes information from other users - giving extra weight to those users that are “similar” to you (based on comparing previous behavior), then the page author and finally the “rest of the web”.”

…read on to see how tagging fits in or complements the search result process…tagging alone is not a panacea for retrieval!

Some more tag applications

Filed under: tags, folksonomy

Infoworld are now using a tags to categorise their content, more at Joho the blog…as far as I know these are still author based tags…they are replacing a taxonomy with a flat file structure, and at the same time using an uncontrolled vocabularly.

Ask Jeeves are also getting into the tagging game…I think this is only at a personal level, not quite a social bookmarking tool.

Library Stuff points to Books we like.

April 15, 2005

Social bookmarks so far…

Filed under: General, library, tags, folksonomy

The ultimate goal is for our social bookmark managers to be our personal search engines which can search full-text and also by a subject field (tag). As noted before there isn’t a tool yet that does both.

Added to this, is for the quality of the collective bookmarks to form an emerging vocabularly; a folksonomy that is scalable and usable(effective) - in essence a user defined subject index for the web.

…another issue gaining momentum is in capturing explicit metadata on user behaviour.

Folksonomy vocabulary

The authority on the subject term (tag) is the user, so for your personal collection the vocabularly is bound to make sense, but when the system combines everyone’s accounts and tags we have no single authority anymore, and the vocabularly no longer scales as well.

This is why in traditional systems, when the content grows, people decide it’s time to set rules, in essence, begin to control the vocabulary…these rules can be based on industry standards or home-made.

This is where the problem lies in folksonomies regarding social bookmark managers, there isn’t a controlled vocabularly (but that’s the whole idea) and they are trying to serve two things at once; the personal collection, and the collective collection…how do you have the best of both worlds!

Some obvious issues are synonym control, spelling mistakes, multiple terms for the same thing, same term for different things, etc…

…see these posts for more:

Folksonomies - Cooperative Classification and Communication Through Shared Metadata
A del.icio.us study - Bookmark, Classify and Share: A mini-ethnography of social practices in a distributed classification community.
Metadata for the masses
Folksonomy Notes: Considering the Downsides, Behavioral Trends, and Adaptation
Folksonomies: How we can improve the tags
Can social tagging overcome barriers to content classification?
Folksonomies? How about Metadata Ecologies?
folksonomies + controlled vocabularies
Controlled Vocabularies and Folksonomies: Why Change is Good.
Folksonomy Explanations
Folksonomy
Explaining and Showing Broad and Narrow Folksonomies
Taxonomies and Tags: From Trees to Piles of Leaves
A taxonomy of humour - what nurses can teach us about classification

The tags labels and the content within each tag may not be perfect or choice, or may contain errors (you may find bookmarks that don’t belong in a tag - but at the same time it’s in the eye of the indexer). The by-product of this is that it increases the chance of serendipity when compared to a controlled vocabularly (finding sites by accident is sometimes a gift from the gods).

The reason for this imperfection in indexing is that many people are doing the tagging (everyone has different ideas in judging the aboutness of something)…this problem exists even within a controlled vocabularly environment.
Also the tag index may lack conformity and organisation even within one account let alone collectively.

But even if there was a controlled vocabularly, how could it serve so many disciplines, this isn’t an easy task to map!…you’d need a meta-thesaurus…if the domain of the folksonomy was topic or discipline specific and serviced a particular group of people, eg. a company, then scaling the vocabulary would be not as a massive task.
An example of this on the open web is Connotea, a social bookmark manager (a free online reference management service for scientists) developed by Nature Publishing Group. Most of the members in this system are sharing similar interests, so the content in this domain is discipline specific (not strictly). In turn this makes it easier or more probable for a consistent vocabularly to emerge; a more workable folksonomy.

Another problem in building an emerging vocabularly of this sort is the dynamics of the content within peoples accounts.

If the content in my account is predominately about “Blogs”, I will not just tag items “Blogs”, I’ll get more specific and use tags like “Blogs_km” Blogs_edu” “Blogs_rsch”, etc…
If someone elses account has only a few bookmarks about “Blogs” they will more likely use the broad term “Blogs”.
Also if an account is topic specific, like the former, using tags requires unique names like “Blogs_km” which counters the emerging folksonomy. A way around this is using only one word for a tag and using the adding function to retrieve an item (Furl lacks this retrieval feature)

see more here (scroll to the heading Personal vs Social)

Even though there is no authority system the subject (tag) search still provides relevant results, the only thing is that the index is a bit messy (there are no rules)..tags are not solely used as subject terms, they are just labels in the end.

Sometimes when I search library databases for a specific subject term, it returns zero results, then I notice by chance (from another article) that I was using the wrong term according to their subject index. For example, instead of using the subject term “RSS”, they use “electronic publishing” or “communication technologies.” Now to my mind, in some instances, a user defined vocabularly maybe be more savvy on terminology compared to a traditional indexer of a controlled vocabularly database. I guess they may want to accumulate a certain amount of articles before they warrant applying a new subject term to their vocabularly…so there may be a time factor also.

So the question is “effectiveness.”

Would you use it in a business setting to replace your taxonomy?

At the moment, I’m not so sure, although a folksonomy is handy in the first part of building a taxonomy, ie. gathering user-defined subject terms to define a set of suitable terms for retrieval…I’ve touched on this before, more to add…

For example, in an experimental setting, tags can still be user-defined, but then a moderator comes along and controls the emergent vocabularly…sculpturing the vocabularly as it happens…then everytime you tag future pages you can choose one from the vocabularly and apply a suggested tag also which goes to the moderator (you could also apply suggested tags for older content as its context or specificity may have changed).
Maybe this could work in a business setting but it just wouldn’t scale in the WWW.

…see these posts for more:

Enterprise Distributed Categorisation: I Get on the Folksonomy Bandwagon
The Cognitive Cost of Classification
Using mapped folksonomy to break corporate silos
IBM’s Intranet and Folksonomy
Taxonomy vs. Folksonomy Debate Heats Up

Folksonomy structure

Folksonomies have a flat-file index (all terms are on the same one level). This doesn’t mean they can’t be cross referenceed as related in some way, but it does mean they are not ordered in a hierarchy or parent-child relationship - so I guess they are neither a taxonomy nor controlled vocabularly.

NOTE: to my understanding traditional databases with controlled vocabularies allow you to browse a subject field, this subject index is usually arranged alphabetically…sometimes you can search this index. A subject index can be organised in another way that is more useful than browsing an alphabetical list…it can be arranged in a hierarchy with synonym control where terms can be explicitly related, this is generally a thesaurus…they can also be arranged in other useful ways.

see more for taxonomies.

The flat-file index is made up of all the users “tags”…at the moment on del.icio.us you have to use alternate interfaces to search for tags (and see the content within)…see Technorati tags, Tag central, del.icio.us tag search.
Once you have found your tag and viewed the contents within, it does not allow you to further search within a particular tag.

Alternately you can use del.icio.us itself by typing in a potential tag term in the URL, such as “hats”, eg. http://del.icio.us/tag/hats.
Or you can browse the popular tags on the front page (also see trendalicious! and populicious)…or even jump from bookmark to bookmark looking at tags in other public accounts.

To search for text in a page (del.icio.us only searches the text in the URL and the extended description) there is a way to export content to gmail, very clever to take advantage of gmail’s strong search functionality.

Some social bookmark managers, like Furl, can offer searching within a tag, but only within a personal account, this can’t be viewed in the collective version of tag search engines such as Zniff (searches Spurl) and Furl (need a log-in).
These both search the full-text of human indexed pages, that is, webpages chosen by a collective social group - so it’s a cleaner version of the web (but not as exhaustive).
Problem is that they don’t search for tag labels, and when you find a tag you like, then to search within that section…although, as mentioned before, in Furl, the personal version allows you to search within a folder/tag.

When it comes to searching, it seems that what del.icio.us lacks, Furl and Zniff offers, and vice versa. see this post again…and also the functionality of the personal account, in Furl, is more sophisticated than the collective version.

For now…

Social bookmark managers are tools that don’t control the tag index (as that is counter to what a folksonomy is - an uncontrolled, user defined vocabularly) but contribute to the building of synonym control by the power of suggestion or recommendations.
From this post on the offerings of the del.icio.us posting bookmarklet:

“…a list of popular tags for the page you’re bookmarking, your full tag list, and some popular tags in general.”

Another way to help synonym control is that once you have bookmarked your page, you can click on the “…? other people” link to see what others have linked…but this is after the fact and therefore not reliable.
A great tool I’ve mentioned before is del.icio.us linkbacks…this is before the fact, allowing (via a bookmarklet) to see who has bookmarked the page you are on and the tags applied.
You can extend this by using Durl to get an RSS feed of new people that bookmark a page to see the tags they apply.

Another tool, not so much for synonym control but for mistakes is Tagstemmer, it cleans up similar spelt terms.

Lastly another tool is gre.gario.us…it is used to find similar content to your del.icio.us account (other accounts have to have at least 2 of the same tags), making it a great social tool. But it is also a tool to see what tags other people are using, so you can inturn refine the consistency of tags, ultimately augmenting the public vocabularly that is the folksonomy.

Personal OPAC, personal journal databases, personal anything…

Furl and Spurl seem to be the only bookmark managers that are closer to a traditional library catalogue or a journal database…although I think del.icio.us has a more social intuitive feel. Saying this I have only had limited use of other popular sites such Connotea or CiteULike (seem more akin to journal databases)

The reason I say this is that the folders in Furl can be used to mimic a broad version of the DDC classification system and the keyword field can be used as subject terms.

NOTE: are people aware of this field when they bookmark in Furl…you can search Furl by prefix with an assigned term, eg. Keyword: Hats…as long as you have apllied a term/s in the keyword field at the time of bookmarking.

  • folders/tags assimilate browsing the shelves, or DDC field
  • keyword prefix assimilates searching in the subject field
  • leaving the keyword prefix out of the search is like searching the free full-text
  • you can also search by keyword prefix or free text within a folder/tag
  • although it doesn’t allow searching within two or more folders at the same time

This arrangement could also be done in del.icio.us, you’d just have to distinguish between the classifications set of tags from the subject term set of tags…maybe using a capital letters for the former and lower case for the latter.

Something Furl lacks in it’s social features is searching everyone’s folders (tags) or everyone’s keyword (prefix) index…well the keyword prefix isn’t a social feature full stop (you can’t share keywords as they don’t have social tags). I’ve mentioned before (scroll to the heading Personal keyword index anyone?), that it would be great to view a list of your keyword index.

But is this type of thinking trying to stretch a one-level flat file index to its limits?…it’s the kind of thinking that leads us back to sub-folders…or can you simply just have 2 types of tags?

Another great feature, in Furl and some of the others, is that you can apply comments or clippings to each bookmark, this would be similar to adding a table of contents to bib records in an OPAC or adding an abstract in a journal database…del.irio.us, a clone of del.icio.us, also incorporates this feature.

Ideal system

  • Search or browse for tag labels (in the alphabetical subject index) and view the content within
  • also offering related tags
  • adding multiple tags together
  • refine search within a tag or a set of tags
  • search full-text
  • results returned in tag clusters
  • refine search within a tag/s

Apply all of the above to a meta-Social bookmark search tool…returning results within multiple social bookmark managers.

Extensible system

Personalising a web-site, database or OPAC by tagging the content…build your own personal version adding to the aggregated version.

Include aggregated version as an alternate subject term search field or as an alternate navigation browsing tool…see here for more

see these posts for more:

library websites and folksonomies
Grassroots Cooperative Categorization Of Digital Content Assets: Folksonomies, What They Are, Why They Work
Folksonomies, internationalisation and libraries
Del.icio.us really is delicious
Folksonomies
MLS February Tech Summit on Social Bookmark Services
Librarians need to be flexible

all consuming is an alternate system to searching/browsing amazon.com…users bookmark webpages from amazon.com and apply tags for retrieval. This is only an alternative to using amazon.com for searching/browsing…it could also be extensible by being integrated into the amazon.com website itself…hopefully this is where folksonomies will lead…

Innovative ideas

Consumerpedia, a wiki based web-site where users create a hierarchial folksonomy to categorise the content for retrieval…here are two reviews…here is a blog post from Consumerpedia and their help page.

Another application in building a communal website and using user defined tags for navigation/retrieval is Tagwhere…it seems you have 2 levels of location tags and a subject label tag…you can also ping from a blog post to Tagwhere…see their about page.

Others are 43 things and grat.uito.us…the content in both these social bookmarking sites are specific to wishlists.

Some of my related posts:

User tags for the: WWW and OPAC
Labelling and arranging for future reference: control…
Folksonomy before Taxonomy
Folksonomies in contrast..
Tagging within a group environment
Visually emerging vocabularies…
Folksomonies with rules..
Some thoughts on Furl and del.icio.us…(and folksonomies)
More on del.icio.us and Furl…
Date with del.icio.us!
Zniff clusters

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