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March 31, 2005

Threaded blogversations…

Filed under: General, conversation

No longer have to rely soley on Technorati to track conversations in the blogosphere. This post from Micropersuation points to new developments on Blogpulse. It goes a step further and attempts to track a conversation as a thread as you usually see in discussion groups or forums…this is good stuff!

For example, check out the thread here, seeded from that Micropersuation post mentioned above.

Here is the conversation tracker page…what they say is:

“Give the Conversation Tracker a whirl by typing in a permalink to a post or to a news article. For perfomance reasons, the default depth of the tree is set to 3 and the default breadth is set to 25. The breadth can be adjusted, as can the expected start date of the conversation”.

I find Blogpulse conversation tracker very clear and neat…you can do this to some extent on their normal or advanced (date range) search screen by typing in a link or a permalink, but it won’t show the depth and thread of the conversation as it happens.

Although what I like about the general search is at the click of a button you can see this information on a graph, providing a visual perspective of the frequency of links to your blog.

Blogpulse mentions that the trend search is a good way of finding out when a conversation started or seeded, once you have found the starting date you can go back to the conversation tracker and enter that value in your date range. (Mind you, their index only goes back to 60 days at the moment)

The only thing it lacks is an RSS feed, or even a bookmarklet…well, I can’t find one!

Also, while you’re there, check out their trends page..they are presenting pre-searched topic packages (within a date range)…make your own trends for analysis…cool!

Check out their analysis report of the blogosphere for the recent tsunami crisis…now this is taking the blogosphere and showing everyone what it’s got!

Also see the searchenginewatch review with a link to the news release.

del.irio.us and del.icio.us linkbacks

Filed under: General, tags, folksonomy

What a great spinoff of del.icio.us.

A post from Library Stuff describes a new tool called de.lirio.us.

Steven says:

“What’s really sweet about this is that you can include a long detailed note with each post in addition to a one line description.”

Similar interface to del.icio.us, all you do is click expand notes link to view more information, good for long abstracts.

Also new is a great extension to del.icio.us called
Delicious Linkbacks

Click the bookmarklet to see a list of who has bookmarked (with tags) the page you are on. Beforehand you had to see the page bookmarked on the del.icio.us interface and click on a link to see who else has bookmarked the item, now you no longer have to do this manually via del.icio.us. You could be on any web page and think…hmmm…I wonder if anyone has bookmarked this page on del.icio.us…wow they have…cool!

Augments the folksonomy value as you can see what tags were used before you apply your own tags…primo!

March 23, 2005

Durl, del.icio.us, Technorati…buttons and links!

Filed under: General, conversation, tools

I’d like to see who has bookmarked webpages from my blog into del.icio.us. I can see who has bookmarked a particular page (using the URL function - clicking on a link under the bookmark title called …"and ? others", here’s a random example of a bookmark), but I’d like to see in one search who has bookmarked any page on my blog.

I’d also like to get an RSS feed for this type of search…at the moment I only know of Durl (generates an RSS feed for only a single webpage on del.icio.us)

Technorati performs this kind of result, I can "link:" search a particular post on my blog… I can also "link:" search my home page address and get all links to my homepage as well as all my blogposts (permalinks).

Has anyone come up with a way that del.icious can find all bookmarks saved to a whole website (including all webpages) rather than just theURL of one webpage…and also generate an RSS feed?

What a big ask!

…or even better, what about this not being limited to just del.icio.us but including other social bookmark managers as well.

More musings…

At the end of blog posts some people have citation links to Technorati, Bloglines, Google, etc..it would be good to add Furl or del.icio.us to the bunch.

…and more

From on of my blog posts:

"I also like the little button on the DURL page that acts as a counter for the number of times your post has been bookmarked by a particular service"

The button mentioned above is by SPURL, having one for del.icio.us or Furl would be great. But you’d have to have one for every blog post! …unless, it could record all your blogpages, as per the topic of this current post.

…or here I go again, one bookmark counter encompassing all the social bookmark services!

Here’s something that I think is achievable, not by me that’s for sure (otherwise I’d be be talking less and tinkering more)..what about having a Technorati counter button on your blog home page (recording the number of citations links to your blog)

By the way has anyone made a bookmarklet for Durl? …at the moment I have to go to the website to submit my query.

Gee I’m asking a lot of questions, that’s enough for now!

March 22, 2005

De-dupe the RSS reader…please!

Filed under: General, readers

Haven’t used Google news a great deal but I just realised that they collapse duplicate articles. At the end of an item there is a link called "related" which shows all other posts..I’m not sure how the system works out that 2 articles are alike.

Here is an example:

Yahoo, Flicker deal confirmed
Xinhua - all 238 related »

I’ve had a little experience on Newsgator but have found they sometimes have a link at the end of a post called "incoming links", I think this is collapsing duplicates as well. Maybe it’s exactly reflecting what the website, the feed is from, is doing. If the feeds website has a post that collapses duplicate links then when that post appears in Newsgator it does the same…I’m not sure on this one!

What about your personal RSS aggregator performing this same function as News Aggregators such as Google news. Now wouldn’t this be a great feature in Bloglines, I find so many posts are about the same thing within my account. I’d like one post, and all other posts about the same thing as a collapsable link at the end of the post.

But how would the system choose which post to show you amongst the others (maybe this could be done by previous reading behaviour, a la Chameleon, Findory)..choosing to show you the post that you read from the most.

The next question is that blog posts unlike news stories are unique in their own way, wandering in different directions, including off topic information…some are indepth reviews while others are re-published clips. In this respect not all posts are the same every time, even if the content covers mutual ground.

 Regardless you could click on a link at the end of a post called "similar sub" that expands and shows you new links to other posts with similar content in your account (presumably the same content, similar is too broad in this respect). Now these are similar links to posts from feeds that you have subscribed to, in effect "your subscriptions".

I guess there could also be another link called "similar non-sub" which shows you the same/similar content to posts you aren’t subscribed to (a great discovery tool).

While you’re there the same could go for "past similar sub" and "past similar non-sub" showing you links in your cache that are similar in content to the new post…and so on.

You’d have to think of better label names for these links than I have quickly conjured up!

Umm..tasty!

Filed under: General, tags, conversation, tools

Always wanted to make use of bookmarking add on tools such as Pasta and Wetaste. Of late I’ve been reading posts which have an enormous amounts of feedback and discussion in their comments. I was thinking some of this is magic, how am I going to remember it’s in the comments of this post. Wetaste to the rescue…I highlighted the comments and hit the "Taste It" bookmarklet, the title and url were automatically generated, then I hit the submit button transferring the information to del.icio.us. Before I hit save I annotated the extended field that this bookmark is a comment within this blog post title. 

Talking about the extended field, I’ve noticed of late that people are using this as a means of leaving comments for communication or discussion. An add on tool such as mentioned above could augment this usability.

Say you share a common tag with someone (if you make the tag name unique enough the content of this tag will have more of a chance just being from you and your mate - your only little space within del.icio.us.

Now if you bookmark a URL and leave comments (extended field) to your mate, your mate can respond by highlighting a little portion of the post, via wetaste, and leave comments about that specific bit, and so on.

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